VII. Reloading Information

B. Bullet & Shot Information

5. A Few Notes Regarding Cast Bullet Alloys

by Norm Johnson (njohnson@nosc.mil)


There are a great number of old wives tales regarding lead alloys 
as pertain to bullet moulding and how to achieve practical 
accuracy with those bullets.  Let us use the inquirie answering 
technique.  

> I do not understand why a lead cast bullet can only contain a few 
> percent (2 to 3) parts of tin to be classed as hard.If an alloy 
> of 70% lead and 30% tin was used it will still be "softer" than 
> copper.  What gives?

Historically, bullet lead is hardened, principally, by addition 
of antimony and minute mounts of arsenic.  Lead will harden 
slightly with 2-3% of tin added but more than this will not make 
much difference, at least not enough difference to justify using 
expensive tin to do it.  Tin is added to lead in small amounts 
because it will enable better mould fill-out than will pure lead, 
and not to (appreciably) harden the alloy.  More than 2-3% tin is 
a waste of money.  Many old wives tales abound about bullet 
casting alloys; these can be destructive of bullet caster's 
efforts if they are believed.  

> I have come into possession of about 100# of melted down and 
> cleaned up wheel weights, six lead bricks of unknown composition 
> (soft) and 5 -10 # of Linotype.  Is there any method besides 
> trial and error of turning this mess into good bullet metal?  

                    BEWARE -- BEWARE - BEWARE

Before you mix any quantity of the unknown metals that you men-
tion, be aware that even minute amounts of aluminum or zinc can 
completely ruin the casting properties of the metal.  Before you 
mix those different lots of metal, take a sample of each, add 
enough solder to provide 2% - 3% of tin to the mix, and cast.  If 
the unwanted metals are present you will positively NOT get 
filled out bullets (although there are other factors can cause 
the same problems).  

Casting pure Linotype is very satisfying because it makes such 
beautiful bullets.  It is not done much because of its expense 
and is most often used as a source of tin and antimony.  Wheel 
weights alone or with the addition of 2 to 3 percent tin is 
excellent bullet metal and has the added advantage of being about 
the right hardness (strength) to make good hunting bullets; 
Linotype shatters and SHOULD NOT be used for big game hunting.

Recycling bullet metal is common and any tin burned off in the 
process can be easily replaced by the addition of a little sold-
er.

The Cast Bullet Association has a great wealth of articles on 
alloys.  Please be aware that a good deal of bad casting/alloy 
information has been printed in the popular gun rags in the past 
and continues to be.  The Cast Bullet Association has been 
blessed with having members that are professionals in various 
fields and those members (like Dennis Marshall) have put to rest 
a good deal of misinformation that writers have spread over the 
years.  There is so much to be learned (or corrected) that lots 
of reading is necessary.

The single, most comprehensive yet concise article that I have 
seen on bullet metals was published in the 1991 Fouling Shot, 
Jan-Feb issue, beginning on page 89-8.   

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The only control one has over the as-cast bullet diameter, using 
a given mould, is to vary alloy types.  The higher the antimony 
percentage, the larger the bullet diameter.  For instance: 
Bullet alloy        diameter       weight (grains)

lead                .3578          215

wheelweights        .3584          212

Lyman #2 alloy      .3590          206

Linotype            .3594          200

Sometimes trying a softer bullet - even though it will cast a 
slightly smaller diameter bullet, the resulting increased obtura-
tion may fill the throat adequately to reduce gas cutting.  

Incidentally, the resulting diameters of these bullets pushed 
through a given sizing die will differ also as the high alloy types 
have more "spring back".  When pushed through a .357" sizing die, 
the Linotype bullet will be about .0007" larger than the lead 
projectile.  

For light target loads or those that use low pressures, lead and 
2-3% tin for easy fill-out is usually all that is necessary (or 
desirable).  

> Someone on some list posted a caution about using modern wheel
> weights for casting but I have lost the info. I remember that
> apparently the new style (shiny) contain Zinc which caused some
> problem or other.

The "modern" wheelweights, if you mean the tape type stick-on, 
are not worth the fuss as they will gum up your pot beyond be-
lief!  As far as I know, they do not contain zinc, however.  

> What problems does Zinc cause? Is there a reasonable way to "flux 
> it out"? Could I use them for something else (swaging maybe or 
> pouring into a copper jacket to make FMJ...?

Zinc ruins bullet metal in that it prevents mold fill-out.  It 
cannot be removed by home methods and is to be scrupulously 
avoided.  

One exception; pure zinc bullets poured in straight sided molds, 
where fill-out is not so much a problem, shoot very well and act 
like FMJ bullets.   They are VERY hard.  Use just like jacketed 
bullets - no lube.  My Dad gave me lots of zinc about 35 years 
ago and I had a good time with it.  

In that same line, if you have a core mold, zinc contaminated 
metal should work well for jacketed bullet cores.  I make .22 
caliber bullet jackets out of fired .22 LR cases and use dubious 
alloy as cores.  Corbin makes both the core molds and the dies to 
form jackets from .22 LR cases.  It is not a complicated proce-
dure and I experimented with it so that, God forbid, jacketed 
bullets are someday not available, I will have a source for 
my .22 centerfires.  

If you choose to try pure zinc bullets, make sure that, when 
returning to lead casting, your equipment is thoroughly scrubbed, 
as it takes only a slight amount of zinc to contaminate your lead 
alloys.  

I have been unable to swage pure zinc - even on my old C-H Swag-
O-Matic which swages the hardest lead alloys with ease.  It 
breaks either the handle or the bullet.  

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> I found a bunch of Linotype @ .50 per lb. I don't think that 
> this is the best, because a little too hard, alloy for .45 ACP 
> defense use. Do you agree? Perhaps a 45% lead, 45% lino, 10% 
> 50/50 solder might be a good place to start.

Linotype is a 475 F eutectic with 4% tin (Sn), 12% antimony (Sb), 
and 84% lead (Pb).  It makes the best looking bullet going but is 
a waste of expensive tin.  Alloy it with 50% lead and you will 
have a great bullet alloy which will cast at about 14-15 BHN and 
can be heat treated to about 22 BHN if desired.  For non-magnum 
pistol velocities even that 14-15 BHN hardness is not necessary.  
For a softer  alloy still, add more lead then bring the tin 
content back up with solder.  Do keep your tin content at about 
2%-3% though, for good mold fill-out characteristics.  
However, for a .45 defense load, the hardness, as relates to 
bullet performance on the target, is not awfully important.  
Velocities are too low for the .45 ACP to (dependably) deform in 
flesh except for perhaps pure lead in a gaping cup point configu-
ration.  Even then it is not be dependable unless the cup is 
filled with grease.  I have had reports sent to me that there 
have been some colossal failures to expand by some of the recent-
ly introduced high hype pistol bullets when fired from close 
range into water and water saturated paper.  

Bullet nose shape and diameter is the key to bullet performance 
in flesh for pistol velocities.  The flatter, the larger diameter 
the nose, the better the disruption.  If there is a little metal 
upset, so much the better, but do not count on it.  

For a succinct explanation of this get Veral Smith's catalog.  It 
is filled with priceless tidbits.  He is:

Lead Bullets Technology
HBR 62, Box 145
Moyie Springs, ID 83845
(208)267-3588
                                                                  
His catalog alone is an education in bullet fitting and loading.  

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> A friend has a Webley WG, and cast some bullets of lead with (I 
> think) 5%  antimony and 2% tin, to harden it up. When we fired 
> the reloads,  they were not very good. He bought some bullets of 
> a softer  alloy, and when we shoot these, they are very much more 
> accurate  than the others (like, they all get on the target!), so 
> even a  few percent makes a big difference.  

The hardness of the alloy, taken by itself, is not necessarily 
the controlling factor for good accuracy.  It has been pretty 
well established by serious cast bullet shooters that fit of 
bullet to the revolver throat is probably the singular most 
important factor (other loading practices being reasonable for 
the type of loading being done) to accomplish good accuracy.  

If the (cast) bullet is more than about .0005" smaller than that 
of the throat, chances for good accuracy are diminished.  This is 
because gas cutting of the bullet, while it is still in the 
throat, can destroy the integrity of the bullet and blow molten 
lead ahead of the bullet where it will plate the bore. 

Contrary to what some shooters believe, loads that lead the bore 
can sometimes be cured by using a SOFTER bullet rather than a 
harder one.  This is because the softer bullet will more easily 
bump up (obturate) to fit the throat than the harder one.  This 
obturation reduces or eliminates gas cutting.  The softer alloy, 
if not driven too fast, is more forgiving of oversize throats.  
See "VELOCITY REQUIRED TO EXPAND OR DEFORM VARIOUS HARNESSES" 
an Excerpt from "The Fouling Shot" Issue #81, Sep-Oct, 1989 
"Match Wheelgun and Load Preparation, page 81" near end of this 
article for alloy strength as regards velocities.

The reason for the reputation of hollow base wad cutter (HBWC) as 
such an accurate projectile in so many guns is that its design 
makes use of this knowledge.  The soft skirt of the HBWC easily 
deforms to fill the chamber throat so that there is virtually no 
gas cutting.  Remember, the HBWC is a target bullet, and 
attempting to drive it too fast poses the possibility of blowing 
off its skirt which may lodge in the bore.  

As an aside, I have found one of the most accurate and 
explosive .357 Magnum loads to be a reversed HBWC with a gas 
check placed on what was originally its wadcutter nose.  This is 
not practical with all HBWC bullets because the nose is too large 
to accomodate the gas check.  I believe that mine are of Star 
manufacture.  These loads are driven hard with H-110 and W-W 296 
and exhibit virtually no leading.  

Your cast bullets are likely to be undersize for your Webley's 
throats (a common situation) while the softer projectiles were of 
larger diameter and/or were soft enough to obturate enough to 
fill the throats adequately.  

> Is there any danger associated with fumes in lead bullet cast-
> ing?  Any common methods of protection?

Lead does not begin to out gas below about 1100 degrees F so the 
danger is not from lead fumes.  It seems that the danger from 
lead is not very well understood by most casters in that quanti-
tative information does not seem to be available nor do we ordi-
narily have means to measure quantities.  Prudence is therefore 
the common sense answer to avoiding problems.  I would not feel 
comfortable casting in an unvented cellar, for instance, although 
this has been a common practice in cold weather country and 
places that have a winter.  Here in San Diego, where the coldest 
temperature is about 40 F, I cast in my open garage and feel safe 
doing so.  As a precaution, after casting many years I decided to 
have my lead blood level checked.  The normal city dweller is 11; 
mine is 5.  

A couple of years ago I read an account of a bullet caster that 
had a dangerous experience with an unknown lead alloy that out-
gassed something that caused him to pass out for a while even 
though he was in an open area.  Some alloys such as lead plates 
from modern batteries are to be avoided at all costs because of 
the hazardous alloying materials.  In the old days (late 1940's - 
1950's) I used battery plates as nearly all my lead source.  

A great deal of info is available regarding casting and alloy 
hazards in the pages of The Fouling Shot (now The Cast Bullet).

Back copies of The Fouling Shot are available from:

Frank Stanard, Director of Services 
7418 Ridgewood Avenue               
Chevy Chase, MD 20815               

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Excerpt from "The Fouling Shot" Issue #81, Sep-Oct, 1989 "Match 
Wheelgun and Load Preparation, page 81:

     Correct bullet hardness for revolver target loads is about 
8-12 BHN, depending upon the charge giving best bullet stability 
and the chamber pressure generated.

     The usable maximum chamber pressure of an alloy is a 
function of its Brinell Hardness Number.  As a rule of thumb, 
optimum chamber pressure for adequate obturation without leading 
is about four times yield strength.  The conditions of firing in 
a revolver are more severe than in a rifle, so this figure must 
be taken as an absolute, though in a rifle this approximation can 
be exceeded to about 5 times yield if everything is "perfect."

     Within the range of alloy hardness we use for typical as-
cast or heat treated bullets (from 5-30 BHN), yield strength is 
approximated by the BHN multiplied by 480.  This means that a 
soft alloy of 8 BHN, such as factory swaged lead bullets will 
stand up to about 15,000 CUP (8x480x4=15,360), and an alloy of 12 
BHN will stand 23,000 CUP.

     This corresponds to the pressures generated by 4-6 grains of 
fast burning pistol powders such as Bullseye, 231, Red Dot, Green 
Dot or 452AA, which are all well suited for the .44 Spl.  My 
favorite all-purpose alloy is a mixture of indoor-range backstop 
lead (mostly .38 wadcutter and .22 rimfire bullets) mixed with 
about 1 part in 20 of Linotype to provide some minimal tin to 
improve casting.  This stuff makes a nicely filled out, soft 
bullet of 11 BHN.  Eric uses a similar alloy for his gallery 
pistol loads.  By the way, this soft alloy also shoots well in 
moderate .30 cal. rifle loads up to about 1500 f.p.s., and is 
without peer in the big bores, such as the .45-70.

The rest of this article is jamb-packed with other valuable tips 
for improving revolver accuracy.  It is posted in an effort to 
convince you to become members of the Cast Bullet Association.  
It's newsletter, The Cast Bullet, has more immediately usable 
information in it in any given issue than ALL other gun periodi-
cals combined -- guaranteed!  A great deal of the articles apply 
to jacketed bullets as well as cast.

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VELOCITY REQUIRED TO EXPAND OR DEFORM VARIOUS HARNESSES

                MINIMUM       

                TERMINAL      HOLLOW *
BHN             VELOCITY      POINTS 
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30-50           2400 fps      NR
20              2200          NR
18              1900          NR
14-15           1500          NR
10              1400          900 fps
8               1300          800
5(pure lead)    1200          700

NR - Not recommended for game shooting because of extreme 
destructiveness.  Good for varminting, though.

* - Hollow point size and bullet nose shape affect required 
terminal velocity greatly, so these can only be considered 
approximations.  Hollow points are best used with pure lead or 
tin-lead alloys as even small amounts of antimony cause bullet 
break-up.  If antimonial alloys are used, do not exceed 1 1/2% 
antimony or 10 BHN.

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The 1991 Jan-Feb issue of the Fouling Shot has an article by O.H. 
McKagen and Dennis Marshall entitled "On Lead-Tin Solders", page 
89-8 through 89-14.  It is the best explanation of bullet alloys, 
their hardening, softening, time dependent characteristics (no, 
that bullet that you cast last week is not the same bullet that 
you have on your shelf today) that I have ever read.  It puts 
into perspective the nature of a number of alloys used for 
cast/swaged bullets, time hardening, time softening, boundary 
slippage etc., in words that the layman an understand.  

The resulting knowledge can be used to give the caster/swager 
more control over his bullets than he might have ever dreamed was 
possible.  It also helps one to recognize errors that often 
appear in the glossy gun magazines when the writers presume to 
relate their infinite wisdom to those (us) serfs who are 
unread, unwashed -- you know the rest. 

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ANOTHER CBA PITCH

There are a good many articles in the pages of the official 
journal of The Cast Bullet Association that correct many of these 
old errors.  

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God Bless!

Norm